Is this a raised patio I need planning permission for

June 10, 2023 by Kate waters in forum Planning Forum

#1588 Kate waters, 10 June 2023, 09:42

Help!

We bought a house about 2 years ago. It's on quite a substantial hill where the front of the house is higher than the back.
The back garden then drops down to a public park area, which again is substantially lower.

Our kitchen/dining area has 2 sets of sliding doors. The first set, opened up to walkway to the garage, which is slightly higher. The walkway was about a metre in width with narrow steep steps down to the garden (about or metre lower or there abouts).

The 2nd set of doors opened to a sheer drop.

To remedy this, we extended the metre walkway, along the length of the garden to the neighbours fence. We then decided to put the steps in coming the other direction, this creating a bigger area from the 2nd set of doors. We did a patio at the garden level, and tiled everything to match.

This has been like this for a year.

Our neighbour has now complained (her tenants have left) that we should have had planning permission for this, as it's over 30cm High. She considers it an infringement on her privacy as it overlooks her garden and you can see into their lounge.

She has demanded we demolish it, (we painstakingly built it ourselves) and reduce the hight, and not use the area in the interim.

I'm quite shocked... we didn't think we needed permission as we were just improving access by adding to a structure that was already in place.

We're thinking of putting a fence to address the privacy issue on top, but I'm worried that will also be over 2 meters and she'll complain about that also. (Considering she has the same walkway height and a seating area with a fence on top on her other side of that garden- but that's the detached side of the house.)

I didn't think this was a raised patio as our house level is higher.... if this was a flat surface not a hill, the doors would simply open to the ground at that height. These steps were built below the damp proof course.

Any advice on what to do? I really don't want to have to demolish it. Were trying to do as much ourselves as possible due to cost and the paving slabs we're really expensive.

:(
K

#2000 Damian, 11 June 2023, 14:01

In order to be exempt from Planning, i.e. PD, the raised decking/patio cannot exceed 300mm. For sloping sites, the height is measured from the ground level to the structure. The same method of measurement would also apply to a fence, which is limited to 2m high.

#2003 Kate waters, 13 June 2023, 23:45

How does this work of the house is 1m higher than the ground, and there is pre-existing walkway/patio area? Is that not the "ground adjacent to the house?" Otherwise we'd be jumping down and breaking our necks to exit the house.... would adding to this not constitute as permitted development, particularly if we are adding in better steps for ease of access?

#2004 Damian, 14 June 2023, 08:01

Irrespective if it’s an extension or continuation of an existing raised patio/decked area, anything more than 300mm requires Planning.

Is there any reason why you’re trying to avoid submitting a Planning application? Yes, the Council will review the impacts on overlooking, loss of privacy, etc… But if the new and extended areas are not significantly different than the current situation, it’ll more than likely be approved.

Your other option is to take the risk, leave it and see if your neighbour reports you/the works to Planning which could warrant a visit from a Planning or Enforcement Officer.

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